Keanie Bean Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 We received some more documents the other day about our 15 acre smallholding in Lincolnshire. They showed it to be only about 2 acres most of which are not able to be used for business puropses. This has come as a real shock as we were told it had a smallholding number! We have questioned the solicitor about the land and even he is a alarmed. We havent had any feedback from their solicitors just yet but, I dont think we will be going ahead with this now as it just wont be suitable for what we wanted and what we were led to believe it could be used for. As for abot 13 acres just dissapearing .... well who knows, maybe thats why they were so eager to drop the price and have us complete, or maybe the land registry is just plain wrong.I'll let you know more when we get some answers. Sarah.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missuscluck Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 OOOh nooo. Thats a disaster. How awfull. Its amazing how they thought you wouldnt find out about the land. Its a pain having to go through all the searches and fuss when you just want to move in, but in this case thank god for all the checks you have to make. Something else will turn up Im sure than you will be glad that you didnt get this one. Im a great beliver in fate. A better option will turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa33 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 How awful for you. Something better will come along, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 How disappointing. It seems very odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedusA Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 How strange. I hope your solicitor gets to the bottom of it. It must be very disappointing for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjules Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Why would anyone describe it as 15 acres when it's 2? They must have realised they'd be found out. Could it not be some kind of error? Maybe they meant 1.5 acres! I'm so sorry, you must be very disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 What a shame . You must be disappointed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizinsa Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 If it is only 2 acres that very and but Land Registry are notoriously bad, they usually have about 3 maps of the same area with 3 different boundaries marked! Hopefully it should all get sorted soon, but if not, at least you know before you completed. I'm a firm believer that things happen for a reason, so something bigger and better will be just around the corner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanie Bean Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 We hope its a mistake on the land registrys part, but its a big old mistake. I've no doubt we will find something better, but it's such a shame having wasted about £4000 to find out. I'ts a plus point for these home pack things that the government are trying to get sorted out. Sarah.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Surely if these people are trying to sell you land that doesn't belong to them.....they are committing some sort of fraud? And if they have been running the 15 acres s a small holding with all these rules in place...how have they got away with it? There must be a mistake somewhere. Very odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Very bizarre! I really hope it gets sorted soon Sarah, then you can get on with planning your futures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchHazel Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I think you should use the small claims court to recover the £4000 you have paid out.You did this on the baisi that you were buying 15 acres, and it's only 2. You must have a case, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanie Bean Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Well we still have to make sure its not a mistake. I will suggest this to my mum who is the main purchaser ( we were going to buy in after selling our house). To be honnest she is worn out though, she has had a really tough time. She has spent the past 18 month converting her 8 bed house into somewhere she can let and shes done all the work herself, she spent ages looking for a home and now all this. On top of all that she has had to deal with akward family members and the house next door is being totally gutted so she feels like she has been living on a building site for so long. Needless to say this is proving the final straw for her, so I dont know if she would have the strength to go through trying to make a claim. I'll keep that one in mind though and suggest it if I need to. Thaks, Sarah.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 It does seem odd that they were selling 15 acres - and worrying that you haven't heard back. It could just be that it is a Land Registry error - may be they bought extra land at some time and the LR have sent just the one map. When we bought extra land it shows as an extra LR document, even though the land was attached to our garden. You need a Holding Number if you keep even a Kune Kune pig as a pet so it would be perfectly possible to have a number on just 2 acres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillfamily Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 So sorry to hear this Sarah Hope it can all be resolved very soon without too much more stress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Did you make the initial "purchase" through an Agent? if so, there may be a case, as the Agent is legally obliged to give accuratem details, withinthe best of their knowledge, and if they did'nt bother to "measure up" so to speak, then I would be roaring at them, and threatening press intervention..media attention is always a good way to make a wrongdoer pay attention!! I have threatened the bank a couple of times when thier errors and lack of reparation have gotten too rediculous. They even sent a huge bunch of flowers once!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 We hope its a mistake on the land registrys part, but its a big old mistake. I've no doubt we will find something better, but it's such a shame having wasted about £4000 to find out. I'ts a plus point for these home pack things that the government are trying to get sorted out. Sarah.x I recently was going to purchase a couple of acres with the view to build on it. It turned out that the land was not registered with land registry, could yours be the same do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 The person I bought my house off lied to his agents about what land was sold with the house To be honest I was relieved because it included the old falling down wall the borders the road and a load of ancient oak trees that are well passed their best and would be a nightmare to look after The guy who owns the land is a bit of a swine and I am looking forward to when the wall finally falls into the road and he has to sort it I looked into selling the house about 5 years ago and invited the agent round that I had bought from for a valuation and he assumed it was the same plot and was astonished to learn thatr the previous owner had been so dishonest about the land next to the house so it does happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanie Bean Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 I really hope we havent been totally sucked in by these people. She showed us 4, 2.2 acre paddocks plus other land which included the gardens outbuildings and house so she definately wasnt selling a 1.5 acre property. My mum is going to find out whats going on and then tell them she doesnt want it I think. We just have to know whats going on here though. Sarah.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helly Welly Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 That's such bad luck, i'm so sorry for you. Maybe you could borrow some of Poets black cats, it sounds like you need them. I'm sure another smallholding will come up soon, maybe it will be even better than this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Hi Sarah How very disappointing for you - it'll seem small comfort but I honestly believe that these things are meant to happen. If your mum really cant cope with more upheaval, even if the size of the land / ability to have a small holding questions are sorted successfully, then I just know that something much better is around the corner. I hope it all gets sorted out for you and in the meantime I shall send you lots of positive thoughts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I was sorry to read your news. My folks moved to be near us and it was an extremely worrying time for them - my mum more than my dad, and they had so many setbacks, so I understand how you and your mum are feeling. We will be getting a smallholding in the next few years (after colleges finished with), and taking my folks with us. This time we will be the ones moving first, so that all they need do is move in with us and sell their house after. It seems to be the oldun's feel the stress much more. I will keep my fingers crossed that it is a mistake. How long did the owners have that land - might come under use of land or something like it - not sure but 12 years springs to mind (I'm no expert but someone on this forum might know)? We almost bought a house (BC), and it was in a terrible state, but we thought we could restore it. We had so many problems with the person who had accepted our initial offer that we backed out and found a much nicer house. I notice that the old run down house was sold to someone else and it is still in a terrible state. I think we made the right decision in the end, and Mel was definitely right in my case! Regards, and best wishes, Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little chickadee Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 This all sounds like a nightmare for you. I hope life looks less complicatd soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanie Bean Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 My mum spoke to the solicitors yesterday afternoon, and apparently when the current owners bought up more land the land registry was never informed. Thats one little odditty sorted but it still leaves us unsure about several other things. We will see what todays twist in this tale brings I think Sarah.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Glad the land is sorted out - house buying is always so difficult isn't it. Nothing is ever clear and straighforward anymore. When we bought this house the solicitor held us up for a month checking out planning permission on the swimming pool conversion - that is the swimming pool that was converted to a 3 bed bungalow IN NEXT DOORS GARDEN!!! Frankly if it didn't have planning permission it didn't bother me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...