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[TAJ]

This is the one to watch! Ch4 8 pm Thursday for an hour and a half, if you were not put off supermarket meat beforehand I am sure this will do it!

 

Tracy

[Couperwife]

oooh, just put this on

 

Kev wont use processed food (he does most of the cooking) so if I buy it, it gets binned anyway.

 

he is currently ranting at the tv

 

cathy

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[TAJ]

It is just good to watch to feel so self ritgous about never buying supermarket meat or processed foods! 14% water in Chicken!

 

Tracy

[redhotchick]

I was surprised at the difference in the nutritional quality of the tomatoes!

 

I've recorded it because I don't think I took it all in first time round.

[Ygerna]

Is it repeated at all? I missed it

[Egluntyne]

Monday 26 January

 

11:05 PM, Channel 4

 

It will also be available on Channel 4 Catch up eventually. Keep checking.

[Ain't Nobody Here]

I'll try to catch this .

[Rona]

Thanks, missed this last night but have now set it to record on Monday

[missuscluck]

He was trying to encourage the large supermarkets to have some 'social responsibility' and put better ingrediants in their 'smart price' lines and take the few pennies hit on their profits.

 

Te$co, social responsibility!! ha hah ha. Funny!

 

I was surprised about the tomatoes too. Im not sure that the programme told us anything else new though.

[Janty]

I don't see how the supermarkets can claim that their tomatoes aren't ripened using the forcing method. From what I saw last night, weren't each of the more expensive (and higher in lycopene) tomatoes ripened on the vine? Therefore that suggests that the others were picked before they were ripe. Otherwise the supermarkets wouldn't miss a trick and they would have 'ripened on the vine' on their labels as well with another few pennies on the price. All the tomatoes were red so there can't be any discrepency there.

 

I reckon that all our home grown, ripened on the vine tiomatoes are bursting with lycopene.

[Janty]

He was trying to encourage the large supermarkets to have some 'social responsibility' and put better ingrediants in their 'smart price' lines and take the few pennies hit on their profits.

 

When I do my Farming in East Anglia unit with the children at school, we look at foods such as burgers, sausages, etc and analyse what goes in to them. I have recorded this programme to take bits out to show the children.

 

We look at the meat content of a pork sausage, a sausage and something that has so little meat that it cannot legally be called a sausage.

 

Anyone fancy a banger?

 

[chickenanne]

I'm not sure I mind that a sausage doesn't contain much meat.... I just worry about what it DOES contain! Rusk etc has no nutritional value.

[craftyhunnypie]

Grow your own, rear your own, cook your own. It's just the killing side I couldn't do, then have 'fred' who I've fed everyday served up on a plate. A better way of life, I know - but I'd really feel it.

 

Emma.x

[Clur]

I thought I knew what to expect and was still shocked! My parents live on processed foods because they say it's cheaper, but we cut our budget to a third by now not buying it. I am definitely sticking to growing my own veg too!!!

[stoice]

It will also be available on Channel 4 Catch up eventually. Keep checking.

 

It's on there now. But I use a mac and Channel Four catch-up is for PCs only. Grr

[Lesley]

I missed it - I'll record it on Monday.

[Blackrocksrock]

I should not have been shocked but I was - I think the sausages at 2p each from asda making the smart price tomatoes 16p/packet last year is just the pits - amongst other things it contained chicken skin - in a blooming sausage! and the apple pie or rather the pastry pie with a hint of apple! - How on earth do mums buy this stuff for our children/adults of the future still - why on earth are they still allowed to make and sell this muck.

As for the HM burgers in the george forman - the fat was disgusting - I buy my mince from the butcher and when browning it off there is no excess fat whatsoever - Our children are eating rubbish - complete rubbish and unfortunately it tastes good to them!

[The Dogmother]

Thanks Tracy, I missed it too and my video is broken will try to remember to see it on catch-up.

 

It'll only make me rant anyhow - I only eat ethically produce meat or no meat at all.

[chickencam]

I have just watched this on 'catchup' and it didn't really tell us anything we didn't know. You get what you pay for. I would rather eat smaller amounts of the better quality product and bulk it out with other carbs and protein which I know the source of than eat more of a cheaper line. the cost are very similar in the end and you end up better nourished my way.

 

What we need to do is educate children in schools on how to cook nourishing meals on a budget, they are not getting this information at home, therefore in terms of social responsibilitythat is all we can do. While we are at it they can be educated on budgeting in all aspects of life. It would be better than preaching to them over and over again about sex and drugs and careers. My ED is sick of having the same talks

[The Dogmother]

Good call Liz - will they ever introduce Thrift as a subject on the curriculum? On eof my pet subjects.

 

Our parents are war babies, so we learned from them and our grandparents - what will the future generations learn about spending and economies though

 

Perhaps we ought to start up Cooking on a Shoestring classes.....

[Charlottechicken]

I was also surprised by the tomatoes. As for them saying they are not forcibly ripened, to my shame I have just bought a packet of salad tomatoes, and they are pale and green around the stalk end. Vine tomatoes from now on then, and hang the extra cost, you do get what you pay for sometimes!

 

Yes, Claret, I agree, thrift should be taught in schools. I don't have to buy any meat and fish for several weeks now as the freezer is full of good quality stuff I found on clearance shelves in Somerfield, Co-op and Tesco. I can't believe no-one else bought it

 

One of those non apple pies would never pass my lips, it's just over sweet pastry with apple syrup in it

[The Dogmother]

I thought it was well known (bear in mind that I haven't seen this programme) that they pick the tomaotoes early so that they are ripe when they reach the shelves rather than on the vine - they then use gases to 'bring them on' (like with potted plants) and make sure that they are ripe at the right time. The taste of a proper tomato, grown organically, no nitrogen fertilisers is just incomparable; it is sense then that the nutritional content is far lower. All that nitrogen fertilisers do is increase the uptake of water and promote faster growth, so the flavour and nutrients are diluted.

 

I know that I am preaching to the converted here, but try to buy local if you can't grow it yourself and buy from a trusted source so that you know what goes into it.

 

I buy my meat from a local farm's stall at the farmers' market; I also go to their farm to collect offcuts, offal and bones for the pup; they have their own butchery and farm shop and know the provenance of all their meat as it is raised on site. I cook cannily and use less meat as the taste is so much better. it makes more economic sense TBH.

[Couperwife]

you do get what you pay for sometimes!

 

but, you dont!!

 

he proved that for an extra 2p (or so) you could make quite respectable pies and sausages, using real meat (if you know what I mean)

 

but the value brands are still full of the rubbish that they have to put through the grinder 3 times so its edible.

 

I think that the profit margin is what makes it for the supermarkets.

 

ok, im off my soapbox now

 

cathy

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[ubereglu]

It was overall an interesting program, but what I got annoyed by was them not answering how supermarkets could get away with selling such cheap food-at what cost was it to the producers???

 

EXPLOITED, comes to mind.

[..lay a little egg for me]

I thought I knew what to expect and was still shocked! My parents live on processed foods because they say it's cheaper, but we cut our budget to a third by now not buying it. I am definitely sticking to growing my own veg too!!!

 

I agree Clur, I reckon my weekly food bills are considerably lower than people who buy ready-meals. Unfortunately, DS has an unhealthy attraction for anything processed...sausages, burgers, salami, pepperoni, anything in a brightly coloured package. It is most frustrating...I am guessing that because I never buy it, it looks more attractive. I keep telling him what rubbish it is (and personally, I think that a lot of the extra cost is in paying for the packaging). I missed the programme so will record it on Monday and try to get him to watch it