Plum Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) im waiting for the vet to open, she has a prolapse laying firt egg. have her upside down on my lap and holding it in . used some anusol to help reduce swelling . anything else at yhe moment. thanks Edited January 21, 2010 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hello Plum and sorry to hear that Try and warm the area and gently encourage the prolapse back in. Using olive oil or vaseline to gently pop it back into place. Sit with her on your lap, somewhere warm and quite dark as this will calm her down if she is getting aggitated. When all is back in place feed her weetabix, boiled rice etc to try and slow down the egg making process and give her a chance to recover. Hope she is better soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 thanks christian will put her in dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I am sorry to hear that Plum, I cant really add to Christian's advice any update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hope she's okay Plum... x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Well been to vet and doesn't look good but I want to give her a chance. What happened was I found her with the prolapse and egg hanging out with membrane over the egg. I washed it and there was no exit point so I broke the membrane to release the egg. Vet thinks it was a congenital problem. She has baytril to take and I have to continue to wash it and use anusol. He suggested using sugar water to reduce the swelling. Tasha you did that please can you explain, did you make a paste or just bathe in solution? The prolapse goes back but reappears with straining. I am following your advice Christian and have her inside in cat carrier with weetabix to eat. Will sort out seperate accomodation outside later. Thanks for your support. I should be jumping up and down saying hurrah she's not a cockeral. I will when she heals. Keep your fingers crossed for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickvic Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Oh Plum Glad she's ok at the moment, sending lots of good luck vibes for her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Pleased to hear the vet has seen her and she is ok - ish. Make her comfy and continue with the excellent tlc you have been giving her Things like this do happen every now and again, but hoping she will be ok if she is relaxed and heals properly. Fingers crossed for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I'm so pleased to hear she's OK . I'm sure she'll recover fully with your good care . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Thanks all, silly girl laid another egg the prolapse is still there looking congested and purple. I keep putting it back but it reappears as soon as she strains to pass a stool. I shall keep going. I gave her a short time in the garden with the others under close supervision. Motmot was pleased to see her and greeted her with a peck on the head then followed her around closely. She started standing hunched falling asleep so she is back inside in the cat carrier. She doesn't seem to be drinking can i give the Baytril as a bolus? I'll go and search some other posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I just wetted the prolapse and sprinkled sugar on t, I was careful not to rub it in as it would have been abrasive Once back in apply some pressure with your palm evenly over the vent area and hold it there for a while so she doesnt push it immediately back out and it has a chance of staying in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Thanks Tasha, I've had her upside down on my lap holding it in for 1\2 hour at a go but still comes out. She needs some tight knickers or a pessary. I'll try the sugar sprinkling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 oh Plum, these girls do cause a worry, don't they? Poor Eider, it must be very confusing for her to lay her first egg and then have this happen (you both could have done without the second egg too!). I so hope the prolapse treatment works - i'll keep my fingers crossed for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Fingers crossed for her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Poor Eider. I hope it settles down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 oh bless her and you for trying so hard to help her, hope she recovers xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutti Frutti Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 What a shock I hope you are all bearing up Plum, you're doing a grand job. I hope you have a quiet night and manage to get some sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Well the prolapse is still there but by using the sugar it has shrunk. Its about an inch but the end is crusty and probably necrotic tissue, so hope it sloughs off ok. If I get it to stay in she soon strains and pushes it out. Hopefully if the swelling keeps going it won't irritate her so much. She's dripping fluid or urine or something an awful lot but not really drinking. She doesn't seem dehydrated. I've erected the small run and house again so she can be near the others. Most of the time she seems bright and pottering but every now and then goes hunched and miserable. She straines frequently. See what tomorrow brings. Thank you Omlet folk for the support xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook n Boo Mum Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Sorry to hear poor Eider is poorly Plum....I hope the morning brings better news {{{{hugs}}}} Sha x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple hen Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Sorry to hear poor Eider is having such trouble, she is lucky to have you to take such good care of her. Hope she is better soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Sorry to hear Eider is still havng problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batcatz Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Ah, sorry to hear Eider is under the weather. I'll keep my fingers crossed for her, but you taking great care of her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 An update, Eiders prolapse is no longer congested and inflamation seems to be settling & the flesh around it looks less friable too. It's about 1/2" now so thats better but poo exit is still outside. As before it still keeps prolapsing. The end of the oviduct is still crusty so I was wondering what to put on it now. I've stopped using anusol because it constricts blood vessels and I guess now she needs a good blood supply to heal. I've sprayed it with purple spray, so do I put something to dry it so it flakes off or do I use something to make it moist so it sloughs off? Any ideas? I'm cautiously feeling we might get through this if infection and laying can be avoided. I've covered her run to reduce the daylight and am feeding her wheat and greens plus a few mealworms. Any ideas? Thanks Peeps x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I dont know Plum, instinct says as its supposed to be moist I'd keep it moist Maybe Sudocreme or zinc and castor oil cream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Ok baby bottom then, thinking about it it needs to stretch when another egg comes and I don't want her getting a stricture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
