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Poor you :( . I'm another one who is in awe of all the amazing things you do - I can't believe you manage it with all your health problems :shock: .

 

I agree that jobs that you think need to be done, don't actually. (I clean my WIR bedding out every 3 months :wink: .) Just emptying the poo tray is enough for an eglu, don't give yourself more work.

 

I hope you manage to sort something out about the hospital. Isn't it ridiculous that they won't allow homemade food to be brought in :shock: ? No-one but you is eating it after all :? . Bought in FR meals sounds like a great plan though :clap: .

 

Take care and (((hugs))) from me too :) .

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(I clean my WIR bedding out every 3 months :wink: .) Just emptying the poo tray is enough for an eglu, don't give yourself more work.

 

That's a relief! I have been digging it all out and replacing it once a month, but it is hard work. You keep reading about people who scrub out and disinfect their Eglu/cube once or more a week and I feel bad about leaving it for two. But it looks clean - there is Hemcore in the poo trays and I poo pick and put in Stalosan, and also Hemcore in the nest box which I poo pick and put in Diatom and Stalosan. The chooks look and feel healthy and are laying every day.

 

I hope you manage to sort something out about the hospital. Isn't it ridiculous that they won't allow homemade food to be brought in :shock: ? No-one but you is eating it after all :? . Bought in FR meals sounds like a great plan though :clap: .

 

It's down to infection control - if somebody eats a dodgy meal and gets ill it could be passed on to other patients (although if they were washing their hands properly, this wouldn't be an issue!). They won't let you re-heat bought-in meals, so you can only bring in shop-bought sandwiches or cakes or other stuff you don't need to cook or re-heat.

 

Going into hospital wouldn't be a benefit for me - it would be for them to check I am taking all my treatment, which I am, so I can't see the point. What annoys me is they won't believe me. There wouldn't be any new treatment on offer. I think I'd rest better by going away. Just need DH to ring his cousin now and see what hotels he recommends.

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So sorry you are feeling down. Its bad enough if you get a virus or something - it lays you low but 10 times worse if you have underlying health probs.

Two things OH's expect a lot and hes probably worried sick about you and you do sound depressed - I think sit him down either make hime listen or show him your entry on thread. Often others cant see the wood for the trees.

Secondly - I have been out of hosp nursing for yrs but I didnt know they didnt allow food being bought in - is it because of food posining. Nutrition is a fundamental need to recover and goodness knows there has been a lot in the press recently about it. They also need to listen. i too hate hospitals - I think its because I know what goes on. If you are on a special diet and they cant accomodate it then OH should be allowed to bring food in. Go higher than the nursing sister or Drs if necc - make a big noise.

I dont think this loong winter helps. Do the neccessary and leave the rest - it will get done in time and what doesnt get done will wait. Your animals sound well cared for so now think of you.

Love and hugs from Ali x

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Your 1st post has flagged red warning flags in my mind sweetie.

 

I suffer from very severe depression sometimes and when I am heading down I sound just like you in that first post. Everything is too much, all lists are endless, constantly exhausted and tearful. Please catch it before it gets too deep, it can takes a lot longer to come back up than it does to go down, if that's what it is.

 

I am a perfectionist too, and love to make lists, but I have had to learn to stop doing that, and say no to people. I made myself physically ill, by running myself into the ground and then I got Glandular Fever, and I became mentally ill with depression.

 

It's just not worth doing it to yourself, believe me. I now have to stop before I get tired, not when I get tired. And if OH teases me about taking things easy he soon gets an earful, as he knows what the end result will be if I don't, and neither of us want to go through that again.

 

The guilt is horrible, as a woman we are programmed to believe we can do everything, and should never fail or sit still, but no 2 people are alike.

 

Please listen to my warning and slow down. Make your OH understand that you are not lazy, but that rest is necessary for you to function.

 

Huge hugs xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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No useful advice to add to the excellent suggestions already posted, but I want to send my {{{{{HUGS}}}}} to you too.

Actually, one thought has just occurred to me - could you keep a treatment diary noting what times/days you have taken your treatments? It might help to show to the hospital that you ARE taking all your treatment. It would be a little extra work, but might help to avoid a stay in hospital.

I hope you take Lewis up on his offer of chook-sitting and manage to get away for a few days.

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Your 1st post has flagged red warning flags in my mind sweetie.

 

I suffer from very severe depression sometimes and when I am heading down I sound just like you in that first post. Everything is too much, all lists are endless, constantly exhausted and tearful. Please catch it before it gets too deep, it can takes a lot longer to come back up than it does to go down, if that's what it is.

 

I am a perfectionist too, and love to make lists, but I have had to learn to stop doing that, and say no to people. I made myself physically ill, by running myself into the ground and then I got Glandular Fever, and I became mentally ill with depression.

 

It's just not worth doing it to yourself, believe me. I now have to stop before I get tired, not when I get tired. And if OH teases me about taking things easy he soon gets an earful, as he knows what the end result will be if I don't, and neither of us want to go through that again.

 

The guilt is horrible, as a woman we are programmed to believe we can do everything, and should never fail or sit still, but no 2 people are alike.

 

Please listen to my warning and slow down. Make your OH understand that you are not lazy, but that rest is necessary for you to function.

 

Huge hugs xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

Ditto, can't add any more other than urge you to slow down and relieve yourself of some of the stress of being a high achiever.

 

It's so easy to to grind yourself down with the percieved need/urge to do more and for everything to be perfect,. I've done it myself and now subscribe to the 'good enough' rule (when I remember).

 

Kick back and take it easy m'dear, sometimes it's hard to see the wood for the trees and if you make yourself poorly with the stress and worry, you'll end up in hospital for certain.

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I too am a depressive and I know where Mostin is coming from - a recent virus, probs at work and with YS and I was at rock bottom. I do feel for you. get well soon hon and hope the support from the lovely forum folks helps - it did me when YS had probs at school.

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Hello

 

I'm so sorry about your situation. I too have a long term health issue so I understand more than most where you're coming from. Mine isn't CF but it is chest related in the main and I've shared a fair few wards with CF patients over the years. I too will do almost anything to stay out of hospital.

 

There are only a handful of specialists for my condition so I understand that you have to work with the doctors you got and can't change. It's hard when they don't believe you but you have to be as strong as you can on Tuesday. For me the way I see it is that I appreciate the advice I am given by the medical profession and I acknowledge they know the science better than me. However, it's my body and it's me that lives with my decisions (and theirs!), therefore I have the last say. Full stop. I have on more than one occasion told doctors where to go (always politely but very firmly). My policy now is that I don't enter hospital as an inpatient unless there is a clear, emergency need.

 

If they cannot give you alternative treatment I can't see how taking you into hospital is going to help either party - if anything it's going to make you feel lower.

 

Re the multitude of jobs, there's some good advice on here already. I think being so hard on yourself for not doing stuff is feeding the other medical problems and vice versa, if that makes sense. You have to slow down, learn to ignore things.

 

PM me if you want to talk anytime. I will be thinking of you on Tuesday in the meantime and hope you are strong and stand up for what you think is right.

 

Take care.

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hey

I have M.E and while that isn't like CF in most ways i do understand about exhaustion and the difficulties involved with that and i also understand the difficulties of living with somone who isn't ill and that while they do their best to understand and remember there are times when they don't understand or forget. You've said that your oh keeps adding tasks to the list of things your doing and you feel guilty if you don't do them. I think that perhaps you need to talk to him about what your going through and how you feel. You retired for a reason and that reason is still as valid now as it was then. It's one thing to help out when your feeling alright it's quite another to be pushing yourself when you clearly are low and not capable of it. I know it's hard because my mother ran her own company up until very recently and i use to help out alot and found it really difficult to look at something and say no i can't do that i need a rest. However you need to talk to him and maybe he can find somone else who can help him when it gets busy or not point out if you've got something slightly wrong and just sort it out.

 

It sounds like the hospital is being a pain in the proverbial. They should be listening to you rather than treating you like a sulky teenager but that is a problem that i've come across a fair amount in various places of the medical profession. ( i would add it's not everyone just some) Hang onto the fact that you are the person who knows your condition best you live with it day to day and it might be worth reminding the person in charge of you case of this and the fact that you wouldn't mess around with something as serious as CF. May not make any difference but i'm a firm believer in the philosophy doctors are there to provide a service to us and as such should listen to us.

 

You have my deepest sympathy about having to give up your skiing and aerobics it's truely heartbreaking to have to give up something you truly love through no choice of your own. It seems really hard to look at it now but try to focus on other things. The only way i've been able to cope with losing what i have is to almost convince myself that i don't want it and to try and forget about it till i'm far enough away to be able to look back with more distance and a slightly leveler head. I can't say thats necessarily the best way but it's the only way it worked for me and it's the only thing thats kept my head above water sometimes

 

As for the photography course you need something to give you pleasure if you enjoy it and it helps lift your mood then don't feel guilty about that lifes to short not to enjoy as much of it as one can :wink:

 

anyway this started off as a 6 line post not quite sure how it turned into an essay :think::lol: i do hope you manage to get your time away and that things improve for you. N if you ever need a moan in an understanding ear don't hesitate to Pm

 

Beth

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Beth

 

Thank you for that lovely message. It is a great reflection of how I feel.

 

The problem with CF is that most of the patients are sulky teenagers, and they forget that when faced with somebody over 50!

 

DH does have his brother helping with his business some of the time. It's a difficult time when you are building up a business and you can't yet afford to pay anybody to help, but I hope that time will soon be over.

 

At least I can go out for a walk today as it isn't raining.

 

Thank you again, everybody, for all your kind thoughts.

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Holiday booked! Four days/three nights midweek break in Norfolk. Yay!

 

Despite being let down by a few people this morning, I didn't let it get me down. Went for a walk, came home via the farm shop, loaded up with Hemcore, and scrubbed out the Cube. The run can wait a couple more days while they get used to their new food and learn not to spray it everywhere, but all in all, I'm feeling more positive. Hooray for Hemcore, Poultry Shield, Stalosan and Diatom.

 

And as a reward the chooks are demolishing the compost heap even as I type this :)

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So sorry to read your earlier post, glad to hear things are looking up a bit.

 

I know this is probably too obvious, but because you have specific health problems is it possible some of the depression, tiredness etc could be down to the good old Menopause or even Thyroid problems which are being overlooked by your gp?

 

I have days when I feel I have been sellotaped to the bed, and every joint hurts and every chore is a tearful mountain to climb....I have been assured by my GP it isn't my thyroid, so it must just be my age...

 

Whatever the cause, I will think about you on Tuesday,

 

Take care xx

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(((Hugs)))) from me too Sarah.

 

I also had similar thoughts to Sadietoo regarding age. As the blues seem to suddenly hit me out of nowhere at times.

 

No matter what you think, to the rest of the world you are clearly amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give yourself a fighting chance. Enjoy that break - you have certainly earned it. Talk to your DH - he needs to understand how ou are feeling on all levels. :)

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Thank you, everybody, again. What a fantastic place this Omlet forum is!

 

I have talked to DH and I think he is beginning to take it seriously. It is quite hard to understand when you are so cheerful, as he is.

 

Every time I start thinking "I must do.." I change it to "I could do.."

 

Amazingly I still end up getting a lot done :)

 

I am also determined to do, each day, at least one thing that I want to do because I enjoy it, rather than battling through each day doing stuff that I have to do, only to find I have no time, or energy, for the things I really want to do.

 

DH has booked a fantastic holiday for us - a lovely place, lots of nature-watching and bird-watching and photography possibilities, a dinner with his cousin (who is a really nice chap) and some spa treatments and relaxation as well.

 

Anyway, I could go and do a bird survey, so I might do that in a bit, as it is sunny :)

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Loads of big wraparound hugs from me too Docsquid. {{{Hugs Sarah very hard}}} You sound as if you are getting it sorted. I agree about the age thing, when I was in my late fourties early fifties I used to feel like climbing the walls and screaming my head off that "Ooops, word censored!"ody cared about what I was going through. So much to do and no time to do it in..... So my friend take it easy and slow, rest whenever you can and don't beat yourself up about what doesn't get done today it can be done tomorrow or the next day or the day after that. Pick one task every day and just achieve that........ I looked around the garden this morning at all the things that need doing, and believe me there are loads, but I decided that I would tackle the broard beans and pick and freeze them and cut them back, and that's what I will do by the end of the day, with time out to chook watch and enjoy their antics in between. :D

 

I will be thinking of you on Tuesday along with all the other wonderful people on here. xx

Your an intelligent woman who can be trusted to administer your own medication. :)

 

The holiday sounds just the ticket. Relax and enjoy it. :D

 

 

I agree Lewis is wonderful. :D

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I've only just caught up and can only add my good wishes Sarah. I'm so pleased to hear you sounding more positive.

 

Like everyone, I have my days when the best I can do is keep on keeping on, and that is without any long term health problems. I have rarely been so glad to reach the end of a school term as I am at the moment; this is the first term I have worked full time since DS2 arrived eight years ago and I am honestly, truthfully exhausted. But this is 'normal' exhaustion and it will mend with a couple of weeks pottering in the garden and baking.

 

It sounds to me like staying out of hospital is the best thing for you, so am sending also good wishes for Tuesday.

 

Dont' ever :shameonu: feel guilty about being less than perfect - take that holiday (sounds lovely), send the chooks away on a holiday on their own, and remember you have the best place in the world to come when you need support. I have never met such a lovely bunch of people as I have found on this forum, both virtually and in real life.

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I'm glad to read you've booked your holiday :clap: Sounds like just the ticket :)

 

As for your list, why not break it down into "Quick jobs", "Enjoyable jobs", "Therapeutic jobs" and put anything else down as "When I feel like it jobs". Then you can pick one or two items off your list a day from the quick/enjoyable/therapeutic lists and the others if and when you feel like it.

 

I sympathise about being self-employed. Although I'm EMployed, I freelance and when I get a job to do, there isn't a knock off time - it's not 9-5. At least with my paid employment, I knock off and go home and can forget about it. But you can't do that when you're self employed - so maybe set a new rule for you and DH that you try to have "me" or "us" time after 6pm? Not always practical I know but it might make him ask whether you're both working too hard?

 

Good luck for Tuesday too... it's rediculous that they're putting you through this!

 

Oh - one last thing! If you're not sure your neighbours will look after your girls properly, please take Lewis up on his lovely offer! Then the girls can have a lovely holiday too and you'll enjoy yours more, by not worrying about them :)

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As for your list, why not break it down into "Quick jobs", "Enjoyable jobs", "Therapeutic jobs" and put anything else down as "When I feel like it jobs". Then you can pick one or two items off your list a day from the quick/enjoyable/therapeutic lists and the others if and when you feel like it.

 

That's a nice idea :)

 

But you can't do that when you're self employed - so maybe set a new rule for you and DH that you try to have "me" or "us" time after 6pm? Not always practical I know but it might make him ask whether you're both working too hard?

 

Hmm...getting him to agree to knock off at 10pm is usually difficult! Ah well, I think the message is sinking in.

 

I'm not even employed, I'm retired! I just help out with DH's business but it seems to have become another full-time job.

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Sorry to hear you a not feeing yourself.

Im sure you will get back to normal soon enough. I hit a bit of a wall a few years ago when everything got far to much for me after a bout of illness. Every small thing became a huge mountain to climb and I wondered how I was ever going to get on with life again. However eventualy you just do. Big hugs to you :D

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DH has booked a fantastic holiday for us - a lovely place, lots of nature-watching and bird-watching and photography possibilities, a dinner with his cousin (who is a really nice chap) and some spa treatments and relaxation as well.

 

Great news :D - all sounding much more positive too :P

 

Hope the chucks are looking forward to their little holiday to the (green eglu) too :lol:

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