Egluntyne Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 ~Click~ If you haven't already compled with Defra regs, now is the time to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy049 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just got a text to say its been confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmashazzie Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Oh dear, hope it's contained and doesn't spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowerpot Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Does anyone know what the symptoms are? I was wondering how I would know if my hens were infected? I have kept them in my covered run since Tuesday when I heard about the 30 days but there is nothing to say that the infection wasn't already in the wild birds before then so I wondered if anyone knew what I am looking for? Sorry if I am being OTT but I want to be sure that my girls are OK. Flowerpot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 If you look on the DEFRA site there's a list of symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlina Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I have friends, including a farmer and a biologist in Sweden who have hens. They had an outbreak there - although quite a way from where they live. Interestingly they've not had any government/similar instructions at all and aren't keeping their hens in. On symptoms - apparently this strain is very harsh - if your bird is alive after 24 hours - the symptoms aren't bird flu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 As said before, the symptoms of AI are very similar to most other bronchial infections. As others have said, they will die very quickly and then you will know I haven't read any news yet, but you can bet that there's a stringent exclusion zone around the farm. Was bound to reach the east coast first, only a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchHazel Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Very sad, poor birds, especially those that survived the flu and were culled. It occurred to me that maybe the birds who survived this outbreak at the farmin Louth shouldn't be culled... ,aybe they have a resistance to the strain, and should be bred from instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 It's mostlikely not a resistance but an immunity to the flu, those birds might have. Like getting the flu jab. You don't pass that on to your kids either. The trouble with Influenza is that it evolves incredibly quickly. The flu at the end of the winter season is often quite different from the one at the beginning and so you can even get the flu more times in a season. Inoculating birds against the H5 strains is rather pointless as you would have to do it very often. And making one takes some time. In that time the flu has evolved further and sometimes makes the inoculation pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 their culled because they're possible carriers of the pathogen and as said flu mutates to quickly to effectively vaccinate against plus there's all the resistance to vaccines and antibiotics in humans that has to be considered. this strain is not the same as the one in UK in 2015 the last time We had bird flu in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 their culled because they're possible carriers of the pathogen and as said flu mutates to quickly to effectively vaccinate against plus there's all the resistance to vaccines and antibiotics in humans that has to be considered.this strain is not the same as the one in UK in 2015 the last time We had bird flu in the UK You can't develop resistance to vaccines... only bacteria can become resistant to antibiotics. Which are ineffective against viruses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Now in Wales too Wales online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 That's really worrying. If it's got as far as Wales we have to assume it could be anywhere across the UK now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Pretty much. Coastal areas will get it first I'm sure that you're all doing this anyway, but don't forget that this enforced time in the run will mean that you'll need to sanitise the litter and muck out more often. Just ordered 2 x 5kg tubs of ground sanitising powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowerpot Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hi Thank you for the previous info on symptoms I have looked it up so i now am keeping my eye on my girls in a more informed way! Here is my next daft question! When you put the sanitizing powder down does that affect the hens? I have hard wood chippings down for them which I change every month, then sanitize and then lay clean ones - poo clearing every day as best I can to keep them generally clean and do a major clean at the end of the month. In the summer I have usually swept up the powder after putting it down so that there is a clean base for the fresh chippings. I have always worried if the powder is left down then the hens might ingest it - or do you sweep it up again once it has been put down? The trouble is that in this weather the ground is wet so it will not sweep up easily. I am concerned that my girls may be affected by the powder. Thanks Flowerpot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It's fine - the powder is safe for all livestock. I just rake it into the Aubiose in my run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRoo Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 That's really worrying. If it's got as far as Wales we have to assume it could be anywhere across the UK now. That's what I was just thinking. Does anyone know whereabouts in Wales the duck was found? I'm just across the channel, so if it was in south Wales, then I'm a little bit concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Try Googling it, Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Llanelli I think, Andy. I think we can assume that it is possibly in a few areas of the UK; it is inevitable really. All we can do is sit tight, take all the necessary precautions and let it steer it's course. The strains around this time aren't likely to spread to humans, unless we take to sharing our homes with chickens, or kissing them . The worst that can happen would be that someone's backyard flock caught it and then had to be culled. Not much compared with the poor farmers who are facing ruin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 there a link about half way up page one posted by olly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Mine sometimes go around madly eating the Nettex powder sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlina Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 click Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I am speechless; the park at the bottom of our road has a large aviary, with a roof that's mesh, with a couple of covered areas. A couple of weeks into the prevention order, I gave the town council a ring to advise them that it needed to be covered. It is still open mesh wild birds are able to get into the aviary and eat the caged birds' food. I have emailed them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrocksrock Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 he eglu classic run allows the small birds in too - every day they are in there! And I do have polycarbonate sheeting round it - always have had but the sides are still open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Which birds are those? I have never seen any wild birds in any of my runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
