Lesley Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Everyone's entitled to their opinion WW.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saronne Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 [ I would agree that he was certainly weird in his adult life, but I could never agree with you on the 'talentless' bit. The man's singing and dancing skills were amazing. Saronne x Do you mean like crotch grabbing. Jeez get a life....... Let him babysit YOUR KIDS.... Thanks, Warrens World, got a life. No need to shout or be so unpleasant. Saronne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluekarin Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 [ I would agree that he was certainly weird in his adult life, but I could never agree with you on the 'talentless' bit. The man's singing and dancing skills were amazing. Saronne x Do you mean like crotch grabbing. Jeez get a life....... Let him babysit YOUR KIDS.... Thanks, Warrens World, got a life. No need to shout or be so unpleasant. Saronne I agree Saronne. I wanted to say something earlier, but thought I'd best keep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Terrible for anyone to die so young. Could we all keep it pleasant? We all have different opinions on things in life, but there is no need to attack each other. So if we could move on please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I don't get the outpouring of grief but then I don't get why we're supposed to be in awe over celebrities either. I do think he was very talented albeit a flawed individual - funny how they often go together Sad he was so uncomfortable in his own skin. It's easy to forget how big an issue race (and racism) was then and how weird it must have been to be black and so famous and celebrated. When you throw the immense pressure at a young age and the bullying from his father into the mix it isn't surprising he came out flawed. I hope his kids get some normality but the whole family is dysfunctional so I suspect they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadietoo Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I have to confess I was never a huge Michael Jackson Fan....I do remember the original Jackson 5 but just didn't really like "tamla motown". I think this really is a tragic story of what too much money and too little self esteem can do for a person...and no doubt it does go back to his childhood.... Sad thing too is I am not convinced that his music will really survive forever....Lennon and McCartney he is not (ok..imo only) ...but really he hasn't done anything much that has left any impression since Thriller...and that was 25 years ago ( yes it really was!) He was getting his ten minutes of fame here and there with the bizarre stories and court cases...but will the world remember him in 25 more years? Unfortunately if it does it won't be for his musical talent which is forever tainted now by the other stuff I fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcat Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 hey Wether anyone liked his music or not he was part of a generation of artist who not only helped push their music forward and who also made it to the top based on merit not on looks and who weren't built by a recording company. Whether you liked him or not i bet there is not one person here who if you played Billy Gene or thriller or some of his other hits would not imedatly know what it was and who sang it. He was a musical icon wether you belive he was talented or somone who got lucky. I hope that with his death he and his family get more peace and respect than they ever got when he was alive whether that is his fault or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saronne Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 hey Wether anyone liked his music or not he was part of a generation of artist who not only helped push their music forward and who also made it to the top based on merit not on looks and who weren't built by a recording company. Whether you liked him or not i bet there is not one person here who if you played Billy Gene or thriller or some of his other hits would not imedatly know what it was and who sang it. He was a musical icon wether you belive he was talented or somone who got lucky. I hope that with his death he and his family get more peace and respect than they ever got when he was alive whether that is his fault or not. Well said, Woodcat. Saronne x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 hey Wether anyone liked his music or not he was part of a generation of artist who not only helped push their music forward and who also made it to the top based on merit not on looks and who weren't built by a recording company. Whether you liked him or not i bet there is not one person here who if you played Billy Gene or thriller or some of his other hits would not imedatly know what it was and who sang it. He was a musical icon wether you belive he was talented or somone who got lucky. I hope that with his death he and his family get more peace and respect than they ever got when he was alive whether that is his fault or not. Well said. I grew up with his music, he was an amazing artist. It's so sad his latter part of his life was so troubled. I don't think he really had much of a childhood either. Such a young age and awful for his young children. RIP Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 hey Wether anyone liked his music or not he was part of a generation of artist who not only helped push their music forward and who also made it to the top based on merit not on looks and who weren't built by a recording company. Whether you liked him or not i bet there is not one person here who if you played Billy Gene or thriller or some of his other hits would not imedatly know what it was and who sang it. He was a musical icon wether you belive he was talented or somone who got lucky. I hope that with his death he and his family get more peace and respect than they ever got when he was alive whether that is his fault or not. Well said. I grew up with his music, he was an amazing artist. It's so sad his latter part of his life was so troubled. I don't think he really had much of a childhood either. Such a young age and awful for his young children. RIP Michael. can't really add to that. I was shocked and saddened when I found out he'd died. We were on our way back from our hols and I was listening to 'Heal the world' (part of a radio tribute) and I thought "no-one who writes words like that can have a bad heart". RIP Michael. xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I was listening to 'Heal the world' (part of a radio tribute) and I thought "no-one who writes words like that can have a bad heart". RIP Michael. xxx I agree. I was watching the "Man in the mirror" video the other day, the words and video are quite moving especially now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I never believed all that stuff surrounding his trial, just greedy people trying to cash in! I'm sure all the stress around that must have contributed to his poor health. It's so sad, so, so sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I never believed all that stuff surrounding his trial, just greedy people trying to cash in! I'm sure all the stress around that must have contributed to his poor health. It's so sad, so, so sad. I agree with you Poet. It has been reported that he started taking the synthetic morphine (now alleged to have killed him) during the trial. He always seemed to me like an anorexic, wanting to stop his body from growing, unusual in a man but not unheard of, and coupled with the alleged abuse as a child, not wanting to grow up and remain naive is I suppose, understandable. Funny how the first trial was dropped when millions of dollars were waved under the father's nose If my child was abused, it wouldn't be money I was after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saronne Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Just read that MJ idolised Fred Astaire and that Martin Scorsese directed MJ's video 'Bad'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanbb Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Very talented man. My 13 yo DS was so upset when he heard the news, but did say that he would still enjoy listening to his music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackgold Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 He was a musical genius and as others before him will be remembered always. I remember being 9 months pregnant and dancing to rock with you trying to have my son before christmas day, when he was due........ He was born on christmas day though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helly Welly Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I think Michael, once he had earned enough money to live his own life, reverted to childhood, quite literally. He never had a childhood after all. It would also explain his spending habits as most kids with money spend it straight away and if you are Michael Jackson, who's going to say no to you. For what it's worth, i would have let DD stay with him at Neverland, i imagine it would have been the treat of a lifetime. If he had children sleeping in the same bed as him it's because Michael was a child himself and when children have sleepovers they all pile into the same bed. We judge him as an adult but i'm not sure he ever was. His children were probably more his companions than his kids. I think it's a shame that the media that poured scorn all over him for much of his life are suddenly back in love with him again. It's a shame that they forgot his contribution to the music world when he was alive, who knows, maybe he wouldn't have had all the problems he had if the media hadn't tormented him and dogged his every step. I've been listening to his music al weekend on the radio and it's been a real pleasure. And i like "Ben" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 my favourite is Who's Loving You by the Jackson 5. We all have a favourite dont we I still cant quite believe he's gone so young to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackgold Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 another favourite of mine is Destiny..... the words are beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 Following consideration by the moderating team, a couple of posts which focussed in detail on allegations about MJ ‘s life off stage have been removed, as they were unsuitable for a family forum. Could we ask for your co-operation in keeping the thread suitable for younger Omleteers to read? Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clootie Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well handled Mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 same here Scrambled far too young indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Just watched some of the BBC footage of the tribute. Made me quite teary. Very sad to see his daughter speaking too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitbag Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I watched the memorial concert too. I agree - watching his daughter made me cry. I have no idea what his family must be feeling now with all the bad publicity he is still getting even though he is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clootie Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I found it all a bit too much, sorry. Not emotionally but too much of the schmaltz for me. It's the first time I've actually seen MJ's children, lovely kids they are too and I wish them a normal and happy life. Shame his eldest couldn't get rid of the gum though, same could be said for his grandfather Joe. I hope the media will leave him alone now and let him rest in peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
