Egluntyne Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Blimey! Glad both are OK. The breeder is a bit . They have done themselves out of a bit of money there too. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollyripkim Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Oh that is sooo cute! I wouldn't be able to get any work done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Oh that is sooo cute! I wouldn't be able to get any work done! I keep saying I must do other things but I'm drawn back like bees to nectar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Oh that is sooo cute! I wouldn't be able to get any work done! I keep saying I must do other things but I'm drawn back like bees to nectar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Quick update. just back from vets ~ both Annabel and pup are healthy. Vet commented on what a good Mum Annabel seems to be. Going to leave them in peace now and catch up with news of the other baby Thank you all for your interest. Axx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 What a cute wee pup! I can't imagine what else you could possibly have to do except play puppies all day - I know I wouldn't! Great news to hear both are healthy and all is going well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia W Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Such a sweetie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovychook Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Aww, that's just the loveliest surprise ever! What a little sweetie, lots more photo's please!! I'm surprised that the breeder didn't have any inkling though. At least now Annabel can have a well deserved retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Awwwww thanks again for all your kindness We are overwhelmed but delighted that they are both well. please help with this dilemma tho'. What to do about the breeder.No money changed hands, she simply handed Annabel over to us saying she wanted her to go to a happy home and since she knew Sparky and Daisy were happy dogs and had a good life, she wanted this for Annabel. Annabel had been mated but she believed that she was not in pup, and her last 2 matings had failed. She had always been an outdoor dog and the prospect of her going back to this life fills me with dread. Would be grateful for your thoughts on 1) when I should tell her 2) what I should tell her 3) any deal I could propose Sorry if I sound like I'm asking you to solve this for us but our collective intellect has to be better than mine & OH's alone Axx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I suppose it depends if you're planning on keeping the puppy. If you are, the breeder doesn't really come into it as she gave you Annabel "as seen", if I can put it that way. Are you worried she'll have a claim over the pup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Are you worried she'll have a claim over the pup? Exactly my worry. concerned that presumably she paid a stud fee for mating Annabel and would in other circumstances expect to sell the puppies to repay her outgoings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Ah, I see. Not had any experience of this before! That could be tricky . Technically Annabel is yours so does that make her pup yours too? You'd hope so. Could you ask the vet, he may have some knowledge of this area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplemaniacs Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I may be missing something but you rehomed Annabel in good faith , as long as you are happy to keep her and look after the puppy and either keep it as your own or rehome him, I can't see why the breeder needs to know. You have given Annabel a loving home and are now taking on much more than you expected, perhaps I am missing some vital piece of information. Chrissie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I agree with Chrissie, Annabel and her pup are yours now and I don't think the breeder should come into it at this stage. I could be wrong, but I wonder if she'd actually be interested in a singleton pup anyway? I think as long as you are happy to raise the pup and either keep/re home him when old enough (bet you won't be able to do that! ) then that's your business only. Presumably she could have taken Annabel to be scanned for pups to confirm whether or not she was pregnant, but as she didn't (I assume, as otherwise she would have known?) then she was taking a certain gamble that she definitely wasn't expecting a litter when she was handed over to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplemaniacs Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Presumably she could have taken Annabel to be scanned for pups to confirm whether or not she was pregnant, but as she didn't (I assume, as otherwise she would have known?) then she was taking a certain gamble that she definitely wasn't expecting a litter when she was handed over to you. Did you know that there was a possibility that she was pregnant? If not that was not very responsible by the breeder as there may have been no one at home to deal with the delivering dog and if something had gone wrong the result could have been awful, if help wasn't got for some hours. Chrissie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaT Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Wow! Only just seen this, what a lovely surprise and what gorgeous pics So very cute. I would be inclined to agree with the others re the breeder, I wouldn't have thought she would have a claim now. Thank goodness you rehomed Annabel when you did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaT Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I'm going to come to Dunblane just to see you walking them all at once . We could have a Scottish Omlet meet just to see them all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancing cloud Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 The breeder has no claim at all over Annabel or her pup (we've taken in enough dogs over the years to know this, including an adoptee that they changed their minds six months later and wanted back - no way !!) They are both yours, all yours, and very lucky to have found such a lovely loving home . Maybe clever Annabel kept her condition hidden till she was sure her paws were well and truly under your table ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramble Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I agree with everyone else, I don't think the breeder has any claim at all on puppy - you can bet your bottom dollar if Annabel had needed vet care and you'd ended up with a big bill the breeder wouldn't have wanted to claim that, so I think puppy is the same. I can't help but think it was for the breeder to decide she was or wasn't pregnant, not you? It might be that the mating was an accident (I mean, do we know who daddy is, he could be a Great Dane she met in the park, not a Yorkie at all! - not of course that I'm implying Annabel is that sort of girl!!! )?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Thank you all for your collective wisdom The forum has to be the best problem solving tool there is Thanks esp Dancing Cloud for being so positive ~ makes us feel mush more positive too. I do agree that she could have had Annabel scanned and when I think about it am somewhat bewildered as to why she didn't. £'s I reckon, or perhaps I'm being unkind. Pleased to report that she continues to do well, nursing and sleeping away the day. More pics soon. Axx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I hope it all goes well. Some friends adopted a rescue lurcher a couple of years back, it turned out to be up the duff, they were happy about it and had no problem finding homes. The rescue wasn't so helpful and wanted the pups back (once the hard bot had been done and vet bills paid)... no doubt so they could charge more adoption fees ugly situation ensued but the dog and pups remained with my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 The rescue wasn't so helpful and wanted the pups back (once the hard bot had been done and vet bills paid)... no doubt so they could charge more adoption fees ugly situation ensued but the dog and pups remained with my friends. Absolutely disgraceful - you either take the pups back, vet bills and all, or you leave them with the rehomer. Thank goodness your friend was able to keep and rehome the pups herself. But honestly... The cheek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Sounds like it's settled - the puppy is yours . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Sounds like it's settled - the puppy is yours . Yaay the forum has spoken Hope it goes this well in reality What a terrible story Dogmother, kind of brings you down to earth. I know I wont be able to deal with a nasty situation, so I'll just keep hoping it wont happen. Axx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolaLayla Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Just caught up with your news....that was quick I agree with what folks are saying. She was given to you to care for and surely anything that happens after the 'hand over' be it good or bad is for you to deal with. In this case it is soooo lovely The photos are great. Any news of a name I would just keep quiet about the pup though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
