Old Speckled Hen Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I hope somebody names and shames the culprits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Waitrose taking action is great but its only because its now in the public eye If they were that interested in welfare this wouldnt happen in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 What a horribly upsetting video clip . Those "handlers" should be publicly prosecuted for animal cruelty . Glad to see Waitrose are taking it seriously and acting quickly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Waitrose taking action is great but its only because its now in the public eye If they were that interested in welfare this wouldnt happen in the first place I can tell you without any shadow of a doubt that had they known they would have suspended them a long time ago. Waitrose image as the caring supermarket is not something they would have jeopardized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Recently I joined the Humane Slaughter Association. I eat meat and I want a body to make sure slaughtering is done properly. Only ever buy British, always have. "The Humane Slaughter Association is the only independent registered charity committed solely to the welfare of animals in markets, during transport and to the point of slaughter. In the 1920s it introduced the now almost universal mandatory use of stunning equipment at slaughter, replacing primitive methods." Poor ducks. Where is the RSPCA? Sitting on their hands again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Marple Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Horrific Too shocked to say anymore right now as I made myself watch it. I want to be able to trust Waitrose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyhole kate Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I couldn't watch the footage I know it would upset me greatly We sponsored a Donkey named Dennis at Hillside Sanctuary http://www.hillside.org.uk for years until he passed away (My OH is called Dennis) we now sponsor another Donkey Hillside do some fantastic work in exposing animal creulty and put presure on the relevant authorities to prosecute those responsible well done to them and shame on all those who treat defenceless animals so cruely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillM Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The truth is often unpleasant (to put it mildly) but many thanks WarrensWorld for raising this and making us all that bit more aware of what is going on unseen by the buying public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagazer Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 My ES, without me telling him about it, watched it yesterday and came down and told me how upset he was to watch it. He didn't know how anybody could do that to animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Waitrose taking action is great but its only because its now in the public eye If they were that interested in welfare this wouldnt happen in the first place I can tell you without any shadow of a doubt that had they known they would have suspended them a long time ago. Waitrose image as the caring supermarket is not something they would have jeopardized I think the point is that the supermarket SHOULD know all the time the conditions under which its food is sourced not rely on INSTANT action when caught out. I know I said earlier that this was not always possible but on reflection it should be and perhaps a thumping great fine for lying to the public is in order. Poor ducks. Where is the RSPCA? Sitting on their hands again. I should hope they are involved but I know what you mean. I reported a starving sheep left alone in an empty waterlogged field( I mean really empty...NO grass No anything) with three dead companions and it was two weeks and six phone calls before anything was done. The only reason it survived is because I bought swedes and hay and blagged some silage from a nearby hobby farmer and fed it every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I haven't watched the video because this sort of thing enrages me and makes me want to do the same to people who abuse animals I am a vegetarian but I do buy free range, high welfare for my dog, You read reports like this and wonder if it is an isloated incident? The last free range turkey mince I brought for my dog for example, I hope that the turkey lived and died in a humane manner.... Majuka - Sheepdrove do dog food 'Doggy Bags' , worth trying. I always find it worrying that appointments are made for inspections of places like this - they should be unannounced. That wouldn't eradicate all problems, but would make them less likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_H Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I think the point is that the supermarket SHOULD know all the time the conditions under which its food is sourced not rely on INSTANT action when caught out. I know I said earlier that this was not always possible but on reflection it should be and perhaps a thumping great fine for lying to the public is in order. I agree. Any supermarket that claims on it website that it 'encourages its suppliers to:... * promote high standards of animal welfare' should have measures in place to monitor the conditions. They should be pro-active, not reactive. There should be random checks. Obviously somebody suspected all was not well as they went along with a camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Makes me sick. Yes Waitrose should do better, yes the RSPCA are going to mess up again but who are these sick people that are actually doing these things. Got a third balaclava? I'm only 10 miles away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Can I join you? *revs up chainsaw* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrensWorld Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 We're up for it, ski masks and chainsaw at the ready......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhotchick Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I don't want to watch the video, I don't even want to read the thread, I've read too much and I'm upset at the thought of a sheep, alone and hungry, with 3 dead companions already* I just want to know if there is any duck that I can buy and be confident that it has been reared well. but thank you WarrensWorld for raising this. *I'm thinking that no-one would willingly do that and that the carer must have been incapacitated, and unable to call anyone.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadietoo Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Sadly as someone who has connections to Waitrose supply chain, I can tell you they are really not that caring ..Perhaps if they tried paying their suppliers a little more, instead of screwing them down to the last penny to maximise their own profits, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.......Just a thought Although they have this unique selling strategy that seeks to put them above the rest it seems they are only in it for the profit after all....just like all the other supermarkets....surprise!! There is obviously a huge PR exercise going on now to save face, but hopefully the positive of all this is that they will have to be far more proactive in the future to make sure they start living up to the claims they like to make... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I don't want to watch the video, I don't even want to read the thread, I've read too much and I'm upset at the thought of a sheep, alone and hungry, with 3 dead companions already* I just want to know if there is any duck that I can buy and be confident that it has been reared well. but thank you WarrensWorld for raising this. Don't worry, redhotchick I fed her daily and she used to come up to the fence. She got through a vast amount of swede,hay and silage. She was OK. Farmer's markets are a good source of free range duck which is where I get mine on the rare occasion we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 My elderly father had watched it and started to discuss it but I had to say "stop" I cant listen to it. He was very upset - he had animals as a boy and loves my cats, rabbit and hens when he comes down. He was almost in tears (he has had TIA's so easily upset due to vascular dementia) These people should be named and shamed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have a scream mask will that do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have a scream mask will that do? I had to look that up I thought it was something to hide screaming I think I should go back to bed..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Farmer's markets are a good source of free range duck which is where I get mine on the rare occasion we have it. That's where I get mine from - had some lovely wild pigeon breasts for Christmas day starter from ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencam Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have just seen this and is truely shocking. Those people should be prosecuted not just suspended what is there to think about? I have bought free range duck from Waitrose in the past, it just goes to show that unless you are rearing your own animals, you have no idea what kind of life they have had. I do hope that this is a wake up call to Waitose that they need to to keep a much closer eye on their suppliers and if necessary pay them more so that they can employ good people with animal welfare at heart. I would pay more for my duck and I suspect that the actual difference would be pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Sorry OSH I haven't worn a balaclava since the 60's I wouldnt know where to get one. The scream mask is my sons and I just thought it would be a good disguise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Regardless of what the supermarket do or pay their staff, it should be up to the producer to make sure their animals are treated well. The supermarkets aren't at fault in this case. The individuals that did this are. We seem to be forgetting that people have choices and those men chose to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
